Groan: John’s Love Life News in T:SCC Season 2
Posted in Sarah Connor Chronicles TV Show News on 15-07-2008
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Okay, so here it is — the presence of John Connor’s new love interest in Leven Rambin, who plays a girl name Riley? (Read that article here) Apparently that wasn’t something the producers of the show came up with; instead, it was dictated to them by the suits at FOX. Yup, you heard that right — John is getting a human girlfriend in The Sarah Connor Chronicles Season 2, and it’s because FOX wanted him to have one. I guess it was too much that FOX didn’t try to turn the show into some 90210 bullshit, but whatever, FOX, you’ve done so well with genre shows so far, right? You MUST know what you’re doing.
Anyways, back to the matter at hand. What to expect from TSCC Season 2 involving John, Cameron, and John’s new human girl, Riley? (Named after FOX chief Kevin Reilly, apparently.)
Via TV Guide:
• John’s new love interest, Riley (played by soap vet Leven Rambin) came at the behest of Fox entertainment president Kevin Reilly, hence her soundalike name. Recalls Friedman of his conversation with da boss: “I said, ‘Yeah, maybe we could have a girl come in around Episode 8 or 9.’ … We compromised at Episode 2.”
• Rambin’s innocent high-school cutie serves a particular function for the producers. “Sci-fi shows get a little insular at times,” says Wirth. “It’s nice to see [our characters] interact with real people.” As such, Riley will not be privy to John’s special burden. “I was just as clueless as my character is,” Rambin says about joining the in-progress series.
• But how about some hot man-on-machine action, guys? We can’t be the only ones who have noticed the tension between John and metal-maid Cameron (Summer Glau). Wirth teased: “Every interesting relationship I’ve been in has been a triangle.” Oh, reeeallly? Is this the Swingtown panel?
• And why was Cameron so good at hanging with the teens at first, but later seemed more awkward about human behavior? “Summer’s character had been prepped for that particular situation, so it was almost like she had a script,” explains Friedman. “Once they jumped forward in time, though, she was as adrift as everyone else.”
• Is there a theme to the second season? Friedman offers one word: “Evolution.” Wirth gives a little more: “Sarah’s war is a lot grander and more complicated than she thought it was.”
Ugh. Network interference. Next thing you know, they’ll be introducing a whole group of high school “buddies” for John to bitch about the world with.
But see, if he gets a new cast of friends, maybe they’ll become John’s lutinents in the fight for the future like in T3
i was more intrested in the cameron/john intrest, not some human girl. but whatever fox, you tend to ruin everything you touch, just don’t ruin a great programme like terminatorSCC
Cam and John plz !
I understand there’s money involved, here, but it’s tough for me to understand why in hell Fox has to get involved at all. The ratings are not going to roof just because of a love interest for John. He’s the savior of all mankind in the future, for Christ’s sake, so he doesn’t have time for this crap, whether it’s a love interest with Cameron or Reilly.
Well, I really do hate to sound like an alarmist, but there goes the show right after the second season. We don’t want our world saviors to be human, Fox, they have to be more than that, or what is there left to aspire to. Idiots.
Just because they add a new personality to a show does not mean that the show is going to be bad. It is quite possible that this new love interest will be a good thing. The character was suggested by FOX, but the writers will put words into her mouth and guide her actions based on what will work with the story. Sure, FOX will have some input, but if the writers are good (as they have already proved with Season 1) then they will rise to the challenge of a new character. Let’s give this girl a chance and not throw her to the T-800s just yet.
The problem is not with a new personality, it’s with the power FOX have to do ANYTHING to influence this show in the first place. I would like the idea of the new GF had the writers come up with it in the first place, but the fact that FOX came up with it and used it as leverage to keep the show on the air, and they’re making the GF clueless to John’s alternate life -which is just dumb, and plausible deniability goes right out the window at this point-, tells me there will be more direction from FOX in the future.
Mark my words, here, if they directed the entry of a GF, they’ll be in charge of directing her actions and words, as well. I’m not saying it will, necessarily, kill the show, but just like SoE with Star Wars Galaxies, the outlook is not good.
I get the strange feeling that ratings alone will dictate this character’s fate… If she doesn’t prove popular with viewers, she’ll just be “forgotten” next time John & Sarah have to move on. With all that moving around, and the urgency thereof, it’ll be pretty hard to maintain the clueless act on her part if she does stay with John. That said, hats off to the writers if they can pull this off convincingly.
Of course if all else fails, the producers did tell the fans at Comic-Con that someone was going to die this season…
MARY SUE!!! MARY SSSUUUEE!!!!
From TV Guide:Wirth teased: “Every interesting relationship I’ve been in has been a triangle.”
??? Wow!!! With all due respect, Mr. Wirth (realizing you were joking….but…), There are lots of us who approach life seeking love, for what it should be; a true gift to one another, not for what the latest flavour of love happens to be, at some “Buffet.”
im with you on that one Bill
but that ‘ sadly dont make good TV
sad but true
seriously like but with the added twist of riley into the show i sensed a bit of jealousy frm cameron ????? does ne 1 else see that ??? but why the hell why she tell john she loved him and that he loved her???? unless frm the future thaey had something but i guess it will all be explained in time ????? hopefully lol but keep em comming im loving this show i have to watch it every week wen its on i dare not to miss it keep up the good work , espically u summer glau xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Yes, Cameron’s reactions did have the “flavour” of jealousy. But there is also the possibility that Cameron is still not functioning right (and I suspect the show’s creators will use this device, often). In the plant, Sarah urgently wants her to take action, and Cameron continues to sweep, apparently not hearing Sarah. When she sees Sarah, she says something about “thinking about what I should do.” Do about what? John? Or did she hear Sarah, the first time, and is thinking about THAT. Only, she is damaged and processes threats more slowly, now.
possibly after all john did relate to there being damage to her chip but what is whith camerons reponse to him that she canot trust him for fixing her ?????? i wud have though that trust between them was the whole basis he like her near him not just for the protection phase of it, but what is with her sayin she loves him was that he trying to gt them to realse her from inbetween the trucks or was it serious ????? i think there is more there than we know of and i hope its explored more
Is it so hard to ask that proper English be used in these posts?
What I find interesting is that Cameron’s chip is, indeed, malfunctioning, and this adds an extraordinary element to the show. For example, when Sarah hit the T-X with enough rounds to slow it so Cameron could do her thing, and then the doom music begins to play while Cameron approaches her… talk about building the moment.
As to Riley… all I can do is shake my head. The ability to be a leader and disobedient simultaneously is a trait of the untrained. I feel we will have to watch more to see if Sarah is going to take on the mantle of leader so she can teach John how to be a proper leader, or if he’ll develop those traits on his own. The disobedience I’ve seen in the first episodes, however, is disappointing to me. I understand the story element that John wants to live his life, but with all the character knows, already, I feel he would have disciplined himself to become that ‘great military leader’ by now.
not entirely paul remember he has to take n his role hecnt jus jump into it afta all he is young in t3 he has to realise that its his job to lead the resistance and rid the world of skynet, but what id like to know is that will cameron and john get closer (not sexually) because id wud be a good story line plot dont’t u think
No.
and why not paul ???
im hoping for cam to find all sorts of reasons to terminate Riley !!!
Riley- shoo-away-begone(my opinion only)
and man on machine action(literally) i believe will happen (im guessing somthing will be afoot on prom night’ man this is just like oc. . .with guns)
and the look on Shara’s face(priceless) when she walks in on her son and his terminator
Why have Riley? You don’t need her! John doesnt need her! he has Cameron! so your just forgetting Cameron? is she the character who will die? if it is it should of been Riley who dies. Riley is a stupid unneeded character that will definately rewin the whole show! i will stop watching if Cameron dies instead of Riley. can’t Riley be accidently be killed my Cromartie or something? because if Cameron kills her John will hate her for it and mess the show up more! GRRRR! I hate the idea of Riley, im amazed that the master mind behind Terminator SCC gave in to FOX. Not a happy bunny and i know that many other WILL and DO already agree that Riley is a big mistake for season 2. though i like the new red headed ENGLISH terminator…SHE ROCKS! and shes one of ours! W0OT! http://www.wehateRileyclub.com (<<Not Real Website By The Way!)
I completely agree with you. Riley is a worthless character and a waste of time. John wants a life okay kill Sky Net and make sure there is no chance of it ever being created then he can live his life. Still Riley is a useless addition to the show and brings nothing to the story nothing at all. I would not worry too much about Cameron biting it this season or any season that may come. Cameron is one of the main characters and besides Cameron has a pretty big fan base which includes myself. So killing her off would be a HUGE mistake. As for who may die well Sarah can’t die you can’t have TSCC without Sarah, its her show her name is in the title. John is the future leader of mankind and can’t die for much the same reason Sarah can’t John’s death would end the series. So John is off just like Sarah. Derek Reese, Derek has for all intents and purposes become every bit as important as Cameron, Sarah, and John so I think he is safe too. It would be surprising to me if Derek where to die this season. I would miss him because he is my second favorite Character after only Cameron on this show. Still I think he is safe for now. Cromarte I have really taken a liking to him. He is not as good as Arnold obviously (nobody is) but he is still cool in his own right. I think he could be the one to die this season killed by Cameron or Ellison or how about Catherine Weaver kills him how is that for a twist. I hope it is not Cromarte but if it is I will not be surprised at all. Elision I was surprised that Cromarte did not blow this guys head off at the end of last season. Besides Cromarte Elision is another big suspect for me on who could die this season he is working for Weaver now that by itself puts him at risk. I could defiantly see Weaver killing him because we have already seen what happens to people who piss her off, so Ellison’s days may be numbered we will see. Catheerine Weaver. Unlike Reilly, Catharine Weaver is actually an interesting character. Her mission is obvious, insure or speed up the rise of Sky Net. She is cool. I can’t argue there I still can’t believe Shirley Manson is the one playing this character. Weaver is cunning intelligent, and ruthless which I thing every great villain should be. She is also very creepy that stunt she pulled with the plant guy two weeks ago was disturbing, I hope she does not die because I think she has a lot of potential to become something of a rival to Cameron or Cromarte or maybe both.