Shirley Manson Joins Sarah Connor Chronicles Season 2

Okay, this crap is getting out of hand. I’m all for strong female leads and corporate leadership getting slammed on TV, but when was the last time anyone saw a male CEO. Frankly, this is one downfall in science fiction, is that they cater to what’s politically correct instead of what’s really correct, and it makes the stories somewhat unbelievable and people stop watching.

Yeah, that covers it.

I don’t think about her like a CEO Tech Inc… I ask, she’s gonna singing too?

I don’t think so. She’ll probably have a few choice lines, show off her pretty face all tightened up like someone stretched her skin over her cheeks, and then Cameron will shove her in the trunk.

On the other hand, I read a synopsis somewhere -may have been here- about the group finding a believer-patron sometime close to the show starting up, someone to help them fight Skynet. Not sure how that will pan out, but is this the lady that’s supposed to be the patron? Hmmm….

Oh I don’t know Paul, most of the stories I write have strong female leads, I think it’s a breath of fresh air and that’s coming from a red blooded male, plenty of female CEOs in real life and I’m tired of seeing testosterone laden heroes battling it out, let’s see more female leads.
Alastair

Well, different people like different things, though for my experience, unless a show is well-established -and T: SCC is far from well-established- female leaders tend to make shows tank. I don’t think it’s so much a sexist view or a matter of generational societal training, as it is a matter of human nature. We are hard-wired, from the beginning of mankind, for men to be in charge of everything, and a great deal of adjustment has had to be made to come as far as we have, to defeat or confound the hard-wiring as much as possible.

Again, I don’t mind seeing a female lead -Lena Headey-, though I suppose it would be nice -more than just being tired of not seeing men in charge- to know that women don’t own everything in the world. That’s the best way I could think to put that… I’ve never been known to be very PC; in fact, I friggin’ hate politically correct.

We aren’t actually hard wired from the beginning of mankind for male leads, that’s actually a Semite view that influenced the early Greeks, and from the Greeks the Romans took their view of women. The Romans didn’t actually pioneer anything to be honest, they just borrowed other innovations and called them their own.
Matriarchal societies are actually older than patriarchal societies. The development of human society can be traced from a gradual move from matriarchal society to patriarchal in Europe anyway. Women were seen as leaders in Iron Age Europe, take Boudica, Veleda, Cartimandua, Chiomara amongst many others. It was actually the rise of the Roman Catholic church, which was only an extension of the patriarchal Roman empire that saw the subjugation of women.
What we are seeing in the late 20th and early 21st century is not a political correctness and I’m not politically correct by the way, but we are seeing the cycle of human development come full circle whereby women can take the lead again without being tied to stakes and burned or crucified or thrown to the lions. Think about these things before you say we are hard wired to look to male leads, we’re actually getting back to the way things were.
And getting back to TSCC, the idea of a good female terminator has solid archetypal resonances with ancient mythology, the god of war in Celtic society was female, a battle maiden is a common archetype, as is a female CEO. I don’t have a problem with Shirley Manson playing a female CEO. That’s called breaking the barriers and moving the terminator mythology onwards and upwards instead of staying in the same tired mold.
Alastair

I think you’d better check biological history. You’re trying to stick up for a point of view that is false. Have a nice day.

Garbage actually aren’t from Scotland, they’re from Madison, Wisconsin. Only Shirley is from Scotland, the rest of the boys are from these parts.

I’ve had a crush on Shirley since “Only Happy When It Rains” was playing on MTV (back when they showed videos, anyone remember those days?). So I have zero complaint about another beautiful face gracing this already enjoyable TV show!

And a very pretty face it is too!
I’m from Scotland so it’s doubly good to see her on the show.
Cheers,
Alastair

Most Sci fi type are guys, typically working for annoying guys. That is the reality most scifi fans endure

Watching a bunch of babes plot (or trying to thwart) the downfall of humanity is an excellent reasons to blow 45 minutes. Would you really like to see some jerk, megomaniac guy plotting the downfall of us all? Sounds more like CNN.

Jeez, I haven’t been here in a few, and now Shirley Manson is in Season 2! Nice!! I’m actually a big fan of Garbage, well the band that is. That’s good news, I’m curious to check out her acting skills, interesting if I may say. I’m just a bit curious why is FOX snagging people across the pond? Whatever they I’m sure it’ll be great. I’m happy when it rain and happier with season 2, fingers cross.

Hey flyingfish,
Good to see you’re back! But you always said you’d be back didn’t you:-)
Great to see your comments gracing the forum again. Looking forward to more.
Cheers,
Alastair

Shirley Manson will bring carisma, attitude and strength to her character as she is all of those things.

In my opinion that I why they chose her for that leadership role. I you know of Shirley as much as i do you will realise that.

On stage she is captivating, everyone is looking at her even through the music is amazing and unique. They are drawn to her by her confidence, persona and the wide range of emotions she can express. She can express the deepest darkest evil to the sweetest cutest sympathy.

She is much much more than a pretty face*

I believe she would suceed because she is a very strong willed women if I were you guys I would keep my mouth shut and wait till the show starts I give shirley kudos!

They seem to be on a roll with this series. I enjoy that tough girl stuff, I’m in.